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Post: #1 (ID: 126320) Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 11:20 am Karma this post: (+0 -7) Post subject: Love You a Thousand Times 천만번 사랑해 |
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This new show (replaces Dare to Love) has some real evil in it.. It seems to center on 2 women - the wife of the eldest son of a CEO, who suffers from a weak uterus. Weak Uterus Girl can't conceive because her ovaries have been worn out by her EMIL forcing her to undergo years of artificial insemination. EMIL wants the eldest son to have an heir to the company, but doesn't seem to give a Yanti about the second son, a wastrel who constantly changes his major in college. Is he really her son? I have my doubts. Weak Uterus Girl has the support of Plastic Hair Granny, the CEO's mother. The other woman, Eun Nim, has cute bunny-teeth. Her father is dying from cirrhosis of the liver and needs a transplant. The match is his step daughter, Eun Nim's step sister, who, to be kind, is very unique looking, and only cares about herself. The ESM has spent all the family's savings on her daughter, and Dad's company has gone belly up, and they need money to buy a liver for the transplant, since ESS won't do it because she doesn't want a big scar on her midsection.
Enter Ms Scratch, who haunts the hospital corridors, brokering organs for surrogate mothers. The price? YOUR SOUL! mmmhahahahahahahahaha! The deal will be, Eun Nim becoming a surrogate mother for Weak Uterus Girl and her Favorite Son husband. Meanwhile, ESD likes Second Son, who has encountered Eun Nim twice - the second time when she went to a bar to save her underage half-sister from selling her ass to make money for Dad's transplant (apparently, they don't check the girls' age before they let them sell their asses in bars ). So you just know Eun Nim and Second Son will be getting together, even though Eun Nim will be carrying Favorite Son's baby for Weak Uterus Girl.
The highlite of Episode 2 was the Seoul Kiosk police kicking over Eun Nim's Grandma's kiosk and throwing the old woman on the ground because she doesn't have a license, or something like that. I want to be a Koreandramaland Kiosk policeman when I grow up. _________________ "The present situation is to be regarded as one of opportunity for us, and not disaster"
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Post: #6 (ID: 126751) Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 1:06 am Karma this post: (+0 -0) Post subject: |
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Some thoughts on episode 3:
The start of the meeting between the chaebol EMIL and the baby broker lady was kind of weird. I'm not sure why baby broker lady had to take her sunglasses off, but it seemed like only one person would be allowed to wear sunglasses during the meeting and they were trying to decide who should keep them on. I guess the competition was based on whoever had the biggest pair of oversized sunglasses, since the EMIL kept hers on and baby broker lady had to take hers off.
Once again, it looks like SBS is trying to one up KBS in the violence department. KBS has it's classic "mother hits disobedient grown child with the world's largest broom" bit. But SBS's Love You Thousand Times has put an innovative twist on that theme by having the aunt hit the party boy son with the world's largest ..... scallion ?!?!?! I guess he deserved that hit, as well as the tissue box to the head from his kdrama writer mother; however he deserved to get hit not for the reason that they hit him, but mostly for that goofy way he tied up his hair when he went out clubbing.
In regards to Gang Ho and his attempt to leave his car in front of the hospital, I can't believe someone on a kdrama didn't get away with parking their car in front of the entrance to a major public building. It looks like things are starting to get pretty strict in kdramaland. First, old lady food vendors are made to actually sell things legally and now parking rules are being enforced. Plus, that producer is cracking down on the krdama writing mother to submit her outline for her drama. But according to her, nobody does that anymore. Hmmmm Well if that's the case, I'm hoping that the kdrama writer mother's statement that "nobody does that anymore" isn't art imitating life, otherwise the writers of this show might be going out of control and we'll have another Dare To Love on our hands. |
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Post: #7 (ID: 126788) Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 9:38 pm Karma this post: (+0 -0) Post subject: |
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A few comments on episode 4:
The music on this show is starting to ruin it for me. I know some people don't like the Green Carriage soundtrack, but I actually enjoy that and think that it complements that show nicely. But the music played on Love You a Thousand Times tends to drain the show of any momentum that might be building up. That sappy violin, melodramatic piano pieces, unimpressive building of tension themes and the utterly generic "fighting" determination music makes me think that this show isn't as powerful as it should be. Instead of creating some nice atmosphere, the music just detracts. I wish they would stop playing it and let the scenes speak for themselves, rather than leading the audience to feel a certain way through the sound of the music. I realize that this show is a melodrama but that sappy violin just kills it for me. I get that the characters are all sad and crying with tragic fates, but you don't have to hit me over the head with that weak music in order for me to understand that. Maybe it's just that I wish this show would be a little more upbeat. So far almost every character is a total downer trip.
I am conflicted about my feeling towards the baby-demanding chaebol EMIL. Is this the same actress that played the EMIL on Happiness? On that show she looked great. Yet, on this show it's something different; from the neck down she is va va va voom, however all the makeup she wears, which is caked on, plus really dark lipstick and that short hairstyle that doesn't compliment her face well are things about her that put me off. Additionally, she has no pleasant facial expressions. Granted that's the way the character is supposed to be played, so I'm not faulting the actress. I just wish she wasn't such a walking contradiction of breathtaking and unstimulating.
I really liked that purple tie that the son received as a gift from his bartender/security guard friend. Very cool that he has a tie drawer dispaly case in his house like the ones found in fine clothing stores. I'm putting tie drawer display case down on my list of things to own when I become chaebol.
I'm unsure about what kind of surrogate mother they are trying to make out of Eun-Nim. Did she receive an embryo or only sperm? Did they mention yet? Because I don't remember hearing it said and I would think that it's going to play a crucial role in how the events play out. If it's only sperm, then Eun-Nim can have more of a claim to the baby. I think that Sun Young has a weak uterus. So if that's the case, then Sun Young could donate an egg to make an embryo, right? And if it's an embryo that was implanted in the surrogate mother, then Eun-Nim doesn't have that much of a claim to the baby because even though she held it for nine months, the baby won't contain any of her genetic material.
Nan-Jeong plays a cute fake drunk. But I don't get how Gang-Ho figured it out. From what evidence did he deduce that she was faking? It was never shown or hinted at. Since he's always switching majors, maybe he should give a career as a detective a shot, since he seems to have this extra-ordinary power of perception.
I guess that Eun-Nim didn't think her cunning plan all the way through now that she's showing signs of morning sickness. I wonder what she's going to do when her belly starts showing? I guess she can proclaim that she's going abroad or something like that, but I suspect that this won't happen and that her plan will eventually be discovered by her family.
And why is that baby broker woman such a bad business person? She doesn't demand any money up front from the chaebol EMIL, and instead pays Eun-Nim in full?! So now if anything goes wrong, the baby broker woman is out the cash? And to make her stupidity even more out of place, she is also a scammer (as was revealed by the kdrama writer's sister), so she should know better than to do business where it's possible for her to lose out on a deal. |
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Post: #8 (ID: 126820) Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 1:57 pm Karma this post: (+0 -0) Post subject: |
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I am conflicted about my feeling towards the baby-demanding chaebol EMIL. Is this the same actress that played the EMIL on Happiness? On that show she looked great. Yet, on this show it's something different; from the neck down she is va va va voom, however all the makeup she wears, which is caked on, plus really dark lipstick and that short hairstyle that doesn't compliment her face well are things about her that put me off. Additionally, she has no pleasant facial expressions. Granted that's the way the character is supposed to be played, so I'm not faulting the actress. I just wish she wasn't such a walking contradiction of breathtaking and unstimulating. |
I think she is. And I agree with you 100%. She has a great body, but that hair ruins her appearance completely.
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I'm unsure about what kind of surrogate mother they are trying to make out of Eun-Nim. Did she receive an embryo or only sperm? Did they mention yet? Because I don't remember hearing it said and I would think that it's going to play a crucial role in how the events play out. If it's only sperm, then Eun-Nim can have more of a claim to the baby. I think that Sun Young has a weak uterus. So if that's the case, then Sun Young could donate an egg to make an embryo, right? And if it's an embryo that was implanted in the surrogate mother, then Eun-Nim doesn't have that much of a claim to the baby because even though she held it for nine months, the baby won't contain any of her genetic material. |
Weak Uterus Girl's ovaries are worn out from too much artificial insemination. There probably wasn't anything wrong with her. She just didn't wait long enough. It took us 19 years!
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I guess that Eun-Nim didn't think her cunning plan all the way through now that she's showing signs of morning sickness. I wonder what she's going to do when her belly starts showing? I guess she can proclaim that she's going abroad or something like that, but I suspect that this won't happen and that her plan will eventually be discovered by her family. |
You must have missed it. She said she was going to China to work for her "friend" who made the "loan". EMIL got her an apartment.
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And why is that baby broker woman such a bad business person? |
She is the Devil - Ms Scratch. She deals in souls. Strange - TCM just had "The Devil and Daniel Webster" on - with John Huston as Mr. Scratch...looks just like her... _________________ "The present situation is to be regarded as one of opportunity for us, and not disaster"
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Post: #9 (ID: 126828) Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 4:09 pm Karma this post: (+1 -0) Post subject: |
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You must have missed it. She said she was going to China to work for her "friend" who made the "loan". EMIL got her an apartment. |
Ok. I see that now, since what I posted yesterday was before I saw last night's episode. But I wonder how long she will manage to keep this a secret, especially since her dad (who is another Happiness alumni, as he played rich father in that show) seems so curious about where she got the money and who her "friend" is.
So after watching last night:
-Eun-Nim's stepmom seems confused about why Eun-Nim needed to obtain the money. Eun-Nim did not have to get the money because the Nan-Jeong ran away and didn't donate some of her liver. The surgery would not have been free if Nan-Jeong gave up some of her liver, it would have to be paid for regardless of whether Nan-Jeong donated some of her liver or not. So, step-mom is wrong in saying that it's Nan-Jeong's fault that Eun-Nim had to borrow the money. Apparently they found a liver donor, so Eun-Nim should calm down on the hate for Nan-Jeong, since the liver donor problem got solved even though Nan-Jeong didn't want to help out.
-Nice conception dream you had there, plastic hair granny. But how were you planning on walking away while holding all those peppers in your skirt? ....... Uh..Never mind, I don't want to know. But is it actually a conception dream since baby-broker lady said that a conception dream needs either tigers, carps, or fruit? I first thought no, it's not a conception dream since none of the above were in your dream, but after doing some research I discovered that peppers are indeed a fruit. Interesting that symbolism there. A pepper seems to be a fruit that masquerades as a vegetable and depending on the type of pepper it can be either sweet or hot/spicy. Those were red peppers and there was a bunch of them. I wonder if that's a foreshadowing of the hot and tumultuous events to come because of the masquerade taking place in regards to this pregnancy.
-So far, that white dog, Ari, is getting more air-time than some of the supporting actors/actresses on this show. Plus the step-mom thinks that Ari's doghouse is better than their new house. I wonder who this dog's agent is, that he has it so good on this show? Maybe Ari Gold from HBO's Entourage?
-Gang Ho said "Yes Sir" to his grandmother and the subtitles translated it as "Yes Madam". I wonder what other stuff they mistranslate.
-Nan-Jeong's eyes lit up and was all smiles when she walked into Gang-Ho's room. That is one of my favorite kdramaisms.
-Once again the music co-ordinator for this show needs to be taught how to do his job. That silly music they played when baby-broker lady was explaining her self to kdrama writer + sister was totally out of place. Here they are crying and the mood of the scene was totally thrown out of wack with that clowning around music they were playing in the background. And SBS here's some advice: please learn how to properly mix the music so that it's not so loud in the mix that it overpowers what the actors are saying. It makes your shows look of cheap quality and not to be taken seriously. The volumes were terrible last night along with the show "Smile Honey". I don't know if it's the show's fault, or SBS, or TKC, but please fix this problem.
-Once again over-sized sunglasses figure in prominently within this show. This time Kdrama writer's sister is trying to get in on the competition. But EMIL is a tough person to beat in this category because of those huge square frames that she has. However, I'm not sure why during EMIL and baby-broker's meeting, EMIL decided to take her sunglasses of this time and let baby-broker keep them on. I guess she felt bad for her since she has an eye infection. I'm not sure why only one person can wear sunglasses at a time. I've never heard of this type of etiquette. Unfortunately though for all the over-sized sunglass wearing ladies on this show, Yun the lady mechanic from KBS's Jolly Widows has them all beat because of that gigantic welder's mask sun visor that she's sporting all the time, which is way bigger than any sunglasses worn on this show. But Yun the lady mechanic better notice that she's got some stiff competition in the clothing area with the women on this show because kdrama-writer and Nan-Jeong had on some pretty sweet overalls (Nan-Jeong's had that draw-string with a lounging at home look & kdrama-writer's had the clean, crisp, formal look) which looked way better than the working-class trash overalls that Yun wears. |
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Post: #13 (ID: 127179) Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 7:58 am Karma this post: (+0 -0) Post subject: |
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EMIL is starting to grow on me. I think it's because she's starting to express her self more. Plus, she really knows how to choose her words without over speaking. She just exudes style and class. She just sits there and she's a presence. Baby-broker lady mentioned that EMIL got stars in her eyes when she heard about the baby. Of course she did. Just, look at her body which was prominently on display in those stretch pants. It's built for babies. She's hardwired to be thinking about babies. Those hips, breasts, and buttocks emanate fertility.
Plastic hair granny is calling kdrama mother's show boring and outdated. People in glass houses shouldn't throw rocks, granny. You aren't exactly the most engaging character on this show. You need to spend some more time on Jeju island, where we don't have to hear from you. Plus she complains that EMIL doesn't listen to her while she's talking. Neither do I. But at least I was able to take in EMIL (who was trying to zone out granny's boring conversation) and all her beauty while she was sitting there in that dress. I don't know why, but now, EMIL's hair no longer detracts from her beauty. Maybe it's because she's smiling more now. EMIL is my favorite on this show and definitely carrying it.
So, K-drama writer looks *tired* and her sister suggests that she go for an IV at the hospital?! Is this standard fare or is this kdrama over-exaggerated licensing?
Some quick style comments:
- After the time jump, K-drama writer's hair went from frantic-gambling addict frizzy to pseudo-intellectually short. Has she been cured of her gambling addiction and *tiredness* or did she just get better at disguising them?
- Nan-Jeong, I like your turquoise lounging outfit and that pose you were striking in it as you were lying down in the table in the backyard. But I think I've seen that outfit somewhere before. Did you by any chance get it from Glass Castle's Min Joo?
- Party boy slacker son, I liked your suit and hair after you got back from the US. Just remember, if you want to tie that hair up, don't make it look goofy. And the only time it's acceptable to ever wear cutesy animal character slippers is when you are trying to make your girlfriend smile by showing her how playful you can be.
- What's the deal with that bar and all those neon fluorescent lights? How does anyone drink in there without going blind? No wonder that girl quit.
Interesting to see some of the cellphone nicknames. The wife has her husband listed as 'hubby'. Cute. The husband has the wife listed as 'My Loving wife'. I guess he'll have to change that now. And the bartender has the husband listed as .... 'Daddy-Long Legs'. Huh?
So, let me get this straight, the k-drama writers for 'Dare to Love' considered themselves on par with doctors, and now k-drama writers for 'Love You Thousand Times' consider themselves on par with ... chaebol? I guess so, since on this show, k-drama writer's daughter was good enough to marry into a chaebol family. The finicky, snobby EMIL has allowed her precious son to marry the daughter of a k-drama writer and EMIL's only real complaint about DIL is that she can't have babies, not about her family's background or status. Whatever Well, when you're the writer of a show you can push any agenda you want and looks like k-drama writers are trying to make everyone change their views as to the place of k-drama writers in the social hierarchy of Korea. |
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Post: #26 (ID: 130491) Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 6:20 pm Karma this post: (+0 -0) Post subject: |
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Don't confuse Korea with Koreandramaland. Definitely not the same culture.
I don't see why Weak Uterus Girl is so upset about Moonlighting Girl (although she too, is a Lowly Cake Girl). Favorite Son should be allowed to have both. After all, everybody ought to have a mistress...er, maid... He should just have both of them, and both of them should just quietly accept it, and be grateful. Like I said to my Korean wife (just before she ripped my balls off), "I think I'll get me a girlfriend."
Eun Mi is just an Office Girl. She should be grateful to get as many lines as she is getting in this drama, and thank vicious old Granny for all the abuse she gets. _________________ "The present situation is to be regarded as one of opportunity for us, and not disaster"
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